Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s latest military shake-ups have revived an old wartime question: who really commands the war — the political leader or the general who understands the battlefield better?
From Ukraine’s tensions between President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, Commander-in-Chief Oleksandr Syrskyi and Defense Minister Mykhailo Fedorov, the episode looks back at the same struggle across history: Lincoln and McClellan, Churchill’s revolving door of commanders, Truman and MacArthur, Stalin’s purges, and Hitler’s micromanagement.
Join How We Got Here’s host Jan Darasz and his guest Bartłomiej Kot, Director of the Warsaw Office of the Aspen Institute Central Europe, as they try to answer the question: Are generals fired because their strategy has failed? — or because they have become too independent, too popular, or too powerful to control?
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
01:10 Introduction: Civilian authority and military command in historical perspective
03:55 Interview: Politics as the framework for war
10:14 Interview: The commander as wartime celebrity
12:17 Interlude: Zelenskyy, Zaluzhnyi, and civil-military friction in Ukraine
16:48 Interview: Zelenskyy’s need to balance military logic & political necessity
23:59 Interview: Generational tensions inside Ukraine’s wartime politics
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