Natalie Brunell sits down with Strategy's Michael Saylor at BTC Prague, just after he took heat for selling 32 Bitcoin — and for recent comments defending how he measures the company's growth and what its stock is really worth. Saylor answers the critics and short sellers head-on, explaining why "never sell your Bitcoin" is advice for everyday holders, no longer a rule for a company built to buy Bitcoin and pay out Bitcoin-backed dividends.
We discuss:
- Why "never sell your Bitcoin" is advice for individual retail investors
- How the company is built to survive a crash
- Why he argues Bitcoin needs credit to keep winning
- The four ideologies of Bitcoin
- When he expects capital to rotate back from AI into Bitcoin
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*IN THIS EPISODE*
00:00 The Revolutionary Birth of Digital Credit, Capital, and Stable Yield
2:34 Setting the Record Straight: Why Strategy Sold 32 Bitcoin
3:55 Transforming Strategy Into a Bitcoin Reserve Bank
6:58 Converting Unrealized Capital Gains Into Tax-Deferred Dividends
9:12 Fighting the Short Sellers: The Math of Net Asset Value (NAV) Accretion
11:40 The Credit Agency Blindspot: Overcoming the Traditional "Zero Value" Metric
13:27 Responding to "simplistic trolls" on X
14:47 Dynamically Balancing Infinite Growth vs. Capital Risk
16:22 Demystifying the Balance Sheet: Convertible Debt Liabilities Explained
20:56 Strategy's Business Model: Digital Credit
24:06 Stochastic Cost of Capital: Evaluating the Long-Term Probabilistic Stark Curve
27:31 Growth vs. Risk
41:07 Why Idealism Won't Save Bitcoin, But Big Money Will
49:42 The "AI Summer" Distraction: When Will the Money Flood Back to Bitcoin?
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Producer: Aron Bender
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Editor: Silas Foley
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